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Each card is assigned a count value which depends on the counting system one uses. Counting into multiple decks of cards is not rocket science but it still requires a good amount of discipline and Ace, 1, Double at TC of +1 and above​.


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For shoe dealt games, all card counting systems perform within a tenth of a percent (or so) of each other. For single deck games, a balanced multi.


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What are telltale signs of card counting at a casino table? Even with different counting systems, counting always points in the same I personally start paying attention to people's play when I see them playing good basic strategy. bet to 2 hands and the running count was about 10 in a double deck with.


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What are telltale signs of card counting at a casino table? Even with different counting systems, counting always points in the same I personally start paying attention to people's play when I see them playing good basic strategy. bet to 2 hands and the running count was about 10 in a double deck with.


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Hi folks, do any of you know of any good resources that compare the relative One famous author of a well know book that "attacks' Blackjack (lol) has I play mostly double deck, with $10 to 25 mins, spreading to $ $


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For shoe dealt games, all card counting systems perform within a tenth of a percent (or so) of each other. For single deck games, a balanced multi.


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It's true that older traditional card counting systems require a fair amount of Card counting works in multi-deck games as well as single- and double-deck games. to 1−6 (double deck) is that the casino has a slightly greater edge off the top.


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We've (legally) won millions from casinos, and if you take card counting Use this information to calculate the count per deck or “true count”; Step 4. With Hi-​Lo, the most common card counting system, the card values are as This article gives a good overview of the things involved: Recommended Blackjack Bankroll.


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We've (legally) won millions from casinos, and if you take card counting Use this information to calculate the count per deck or “true count”; Step 4. With Hi-​Lo, the most common card counting system, the card values are as This article gives a good overview of the things involved: Recommended Blackjack Bankroll.


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It's true that older traditional card counting systems require a fair amount of Card counting works in multi-deck games as well as single- and double-deck games. to 1−6 (double deck) is that the casino has a slightly greater edge off the top.


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In other words, big-bet losses are less likely with a higher count system. November 3rd, at PM permalink. Joined: Jul 22, Threads: 27 Posts: Thanks for this post from:. For this to work you will need to select the right game, calculate your bankroll requirements so you can survive the downswings and minimise your risk of ruin. Reasoning: with a level-two count system, your knowledge of the remaining deck composition is more nuanced. Are you looking to take BJ more seriously, or do you play every now and then? Lots of players look for "better systems" to win more money Instead, and it depends on your circumstances, you'll be far better off: -Joining a team that plays HiLo any team I've ever heard of, uses HiLo -Learning to back-count multiple tables -Count the table you're playing obviously and count the table beside your table. The link I posted has some good stuff. Being able to count 2 tables at once with HiLo is significantly better than playing one table with some advanced counting system. Also read into side-counting aces, probably , and the benefit it provides it's usually something like But ALSO try counting 2 separate decks at once and see if you can handle it. Frustrating, wasn't it? I'm hoping one way to smooth out the fluctuations is by using a more accurate counting method. What kind of improvement are you thinking you might realize? I ask this because in my opinion, Hi-lo is more than adequate for the vast majority of players and that includes professional players such as myself. Page of Norm Wattenberger's Modern Black available free at his website appears to be just what you are looking for. Therefore, when the higher-count method tells you that you have an advantage, it's more likely to be accurate. It doesn't take much practice to get a decent grasp on how to do it. So what if you miss a card or 2 on the other table every now and then. October 19th, at AM permalink. But don't start learning anything new. IMO: Check out some different counts, read about them and figure out what they're good at and worse at. Just say no to Blackjack, Continuous shuffle machines and Blackjack the Forum. The advantage is approx. In today's world, with worse conditions, any such benefit of a so called higher level count, really shrinks to almost nothing. Not that I'm saying to use HiLo because it's easier You can talk to other players, chat with the dealer, take notice of what is going on in the pit boss going to phone, floor people huddling up, supervisors taking notice of you, a team of security guards and shift supervisor approaching your table, etc. Which translates to less extreme fluctuations in your bankroll. I currently use hi-lo, but am looking to learn another method. What kind of a network do you have with other APs? RSS Feed. Recommended online casinos. Remember when you first starting learning BJ, learning how to count HiLo, learning basic strategy, the index plays, true count conversion, etc.?

Thanks for the replies kewlj. Joined: May 24, Threads: 12 Posts: October 18th, at AM permalink. Joined: Apr 17, Threads: Posts: October 18th, at PM permalink.

EDIT: Another benefit of a simpler count is You don't have to concentrate on every card, adding or subtracting larger numbers at a time, etc. As a matter of fact most professional or serious players that I know, use hi-lo and of those that do use a so called 'higher' level count, many are older, long-term players, who are using a count they learned a longtime ago, when their may click been more benefit from using such a count.

You will need to size your best card counting system for double deck blackjack accurately and ideally bet proportionally to your advantage to maximise your win rate. He's probably actually no, he IS definitely the go-to guy around here when it comes to card valuable best free casinos to play here in BJ.

Or perhaps you play a mixture of shoe games as well as pitch games. I'm not an expert at the math, but intuitively I would think a level-two count system would help smooth out bankroll fluctuations.

Are you interested in joining a team? Most Active Forum Threads When will casinos open? Being able to back-count two tables doesn't help you if you're link single deck games.

Joined: Jan 11, Threads: 9 Posts: November 4th, at AM permalink. Those ultra-fancy counts look cool on paper, but don't delude yourself into thinking you're going to be unstoppable, everything's going to turn around, you'll be a winner every session or even more frequently.

Can I ask a couple questions pertaining to your consideration to switch counts? Casino Enemy No. Good luck, and don't make a decision too soon. Good luck.

Then go to the casino, and give it a shot Don't need to do it seriously or have any intentions on wonging in to either game Remember, it's common enough for one to go positive and the other to go negative, and once the negative one goes negative-enough, you can abandon counting that table.

What kind of games do you most often play? I want to poke at the question of best card counting system for double deck blackjack deviations one more time. There just is minimal if any benefit to switching. I have posted a link, which may or may not be permissible and may be removed I don't know.

You'll probably also want to side count Aces along with it. All are Best card counting system for double deck blackjack expected value. Plaintiffs' Case Unemployment for Pro Coronavirus math Casino security and

In general, using a level 2 counting system is more accurate than a level 1 system but more error prone. Obviously don't go super fast, go super slow if anything. I used to play both, so I decided on switching to an "easy" level-2 count Zen. Joined: Feb 11, Threads: 62 Posts: Not sure what kewlj wrote, but I agree with whatever it is that he did write. It's easy enough and not so convoluted for shoe games, while maintaining good strength for pitch games. If you're thinking about switching to lessen the fluctuations, I wouldn't switch Just my opinion. Each of those depend on your environment. Is this reasoning sound? That's the kind of statement that speaks volumes, IMO. For me, I don't know if that's worth it mostly because I don't play much BJ anymore. The wild swings possible in the game make me pretty nervous hence the spreads erroring on the conservative side. If you are able to do all of this accurately, count error free and apply the relevant indices at the correct true count in a casino environment then in theory you should enjoy a slight advantage over a level 1 system in the long run. If you play shoe games, you're almost certainly going to want to stay with HiLo. Thanks again for the replies Romes and kewlj. Comparison of different card counting systems?